SCAM: National Crime Prevention BookletPosted on February 23rd, 2010 137 comments
THEIR NOW IMPERSONATING POLICE OFFICERS
I had a call today from a man who said :
” Hello sir I am calling on behalf of the Police”, “We are calling just to say thank you for supporting our latest campaign which I am pleased to say has been a success”
When I asked which campaign he said “The National Crime Prevention Booklet”, So I asked him the name of his company and he said “I am calling from The Police”, I asked his name he said “PC Dawson”, when I asked where exactly was he based he said “The Editorial Department of Cheshire Metropolitan Police”
I said that sounded odd and aksed him for his phone number and he said: 0845 556 7800
I then said If I call that number would I get through to him, he said “No you will get someone else” he then put the phone down.
I rang the number out of curiosity and its a made up number and does not exist. (23 Feb 2010)
SO BEWARE – They are now even pretending to be the police.
137 responses to “SCAM: National Crime Prevention Booklet”
Yap I got exactly the same call from Essex area. The lady was extremely rude and claimed from the Police. She rang me twice in 6 months time – she hung up on me as I started to ask her questions.
Now I am waiting for her 3rd call
MattyC March 10th, 2010 at 13:07
Yep – has just happened to me. The call caught me somewhat unaware and they now have my name but thankfully no money.
I have to hand it to them as it is easy to just agree with them and assume they have their records wrong if caught off guard as they are the police, or so I thought.
I said call back in a couple of weeks; I’m on my guard now so thank you adscams(!)
Amanda Maley March 16th, 2010 at 12:05
It’s just happened to me as well. Cheek..What they didn’t realise is this golf club is right next to the Scottish Police College who we happened to be on very very good terms with and they had warned me about these calls so I knew whenever she started to speak it was a load old tosh….having a budget to follow I know exactly what I spent and where when it comes to advertising. Just put the phone down on these con artists
rita mitchell April 5th, 2010 at 12:14
I had a similar call this morning, obviously working through either a phone book or similar info in the public domain because he knew my name. He said he was from National Crime Prevention and wanted me to answer three questions. Advised him that if he was from crime prevention he should realise that I should not answer questions posed by an unknown caller, surely this a contradiction to the purpose of this organisation… he promptly hung up. The telephone number had been withheld..there’s a surprise!
Christina McDonald April 19th, 2010 at 18:51
The same thing happened to me today. Got a call from a guy who said he was from the London crime prevention unit asking if I want to be included in a National Crime Prevention booklet. After I hung up, I recieved 4 missed calls from an unknown number. The caller ID was withheld – what a shock. I reported him and the number he told me to contact him with initially to trading standards. The scary thing was that he sounded so convincing until I realised he wasn’t being very forthcoming with the details I requested (his credentials, authorisation, who he worked for etc.) My partner answered the ‘private call’ next time he rang and caught him out – he slammed the phone down instantly. Haven’t heard anything since.
I had the same thing last week. Got a call from someone saying the were from the police and thanking for support over the last year and wanted to pass my details to another company to renew our support in a crime prevention booklet. I had seen this web page and thought would play along. They called confirming it had been passed from West Mids Police and would I support them again as my company had done previously. Yet again thought would play along and ensure the had to go to the effort of sending an invoice.It has arrived toady from Trafalgar Press Ltd. I emailed asking for details and got a vague reply about cant let you see artwork as is not done till year end. Will keep you all updated
I have had a prompt resonse after I asked some questions ie what is name of publication, what do I get for my money and which charities they surpport(several apparently)They said they would cancel the invoice and pass my details back to the organisation who passed on my details. I will be doing likewise and passing on to West Mids Police.
Got the call today – a scouser calling and talking very fast to thank me for my involvement in the local Handbook, and started quoting something about £199 for a quarter page – it didn’t sound right, but I couldn’t remember if i had advertised in such a publication or not – the call seemed very much like a warm up call to try and elicit my name – which i gave them incorrectly.
It really is criminal – who do we report this to, the police?
Phillip May 17th, 2010 at 15:16
Had a call from someone today pulling this scam – claimed that I had authorised an advert earlier this year with “Teressa” for the National Crime Prevention publication.
He talked alot about how successful the campaign had been before he stated the our advert was to go into the magazine. At this stage I “smelt a rat” and stated that I had never authorised an advert.
We are a charity and he was trying to con me for £199 “as we all help each other out”. The other notable fact was that he had the name of our organisation slightly incorrect – something that wouldn’t have happened if he had really had authorisation for an advert.
Fortunately we spend very little on advertising and it is improbable that I would advertise in such a publication.
I have had my third big row with these people, who are complete con merchants. I explained that I would never IN A MILLION YEARS have taken an ad. in this magazine. (We have a tiny ad. budget and it is totally locally targeted.) They claim to have a record of a telephone conversation when I booked the ad. – I said, ‘if you can play it back to me, I’ll pay you’. If they call again, I am going to call the Police.
just got contacted by a police officer today! He mentioned the pubication and all i said was ” im not interested”. he said “ok ” and the phone went down.
Just put the phone down on them because they cannot do anything!
Kenny May 27th, 2010 at 03:57
I had a call yesterday from the ‘Police’ (heavy Scouse accent). When I questioned “the Police?” He said it was nothing to worry about he just wanted to thank me for supporting the last campaign etc. I said I couldn’t remember any support. He said that I had supported it and made a difference helping the ‘kiddywinks’. He then said if I want to support them again a half page ad is £120. I then said that I definitly hadn’t supported them and I don’t advertise anyway as I get business from word of mouth. He then just hung up. I called my local police station to report it, although they hadn’t heard of the scam (I’m based in the West Midlands).
Bonnie Walters June 23rd, 2010 at 17:56
I received a call and they said exactly the same to me. Said they were from the National Crime Prevention Unit and wanted to ask me three questions.
If I belonged to a Neighbourhood Watch Scheme
If I had a security alarm
If I lived in a flat or a house
I refused to answer all three on the grounds that I didn’t know who they really were. They excused themselves and put the phone down. When I dialled 1471 the number was with-held.
I have reported them to the police and will let you know if I hear anything.
Received call today – 5th July 2010 from man claiming to be from Police and looking for any help / attentance at National Crime Prevention Week – asked him when and he stuttered and I asked if he was a Police Officer and he said no, a volunteer. I then told him to send me any literature that he had and we would look at it. He had a Liverpool accent (I think). Not very convincing once questioned about stuff but be on your guard anyway.
6 August 2010 – yes they’re still at it! I had a call today from a lady called ‘Kerry’ (number witheld) saying she was from the Crime Prevention Unit (a voluntary group) asking for £149 from us to place our logo in the London copy of the new Crime Prevention Year Book. She said the profits went to Crimestoppers and Victim Support. I’ve checked this out and of course it’s untrue. Please warn your colleagues not to be taken in by this.
sadly i have the same call manchester but isent them a cheque i av phonedthem its a answers phone they are called wilson haines for crime prevention and j r media cancer awareness they both sent me billheads and a copy of the advertisement so i paid them
Got a call today “crime prevention” booklet for schools that he said I had agreed in June to sponsor.They are very clever and are recording the call and you could easily agree with them.Thats all they need you to do and then they send you an invoice for £400.We were caught the same way by PRACTICAL PUBLICATIONS when they caught my husband off guard.They thanked him for sponsoring their fire prevention booklet and were very friendly.He assumed Id sponsored them(Ihadn’t!)and sent us a bill for £450.I am refusing to pay.They are now threatening us with the baliffs!
“The Police” just called the charity i work for. They asked whether we wanted to place an ad with them again, as we apparently did last year. I dont know how they sleep at night.
I’ve had two calls in a week. I was a little confused at first as the ‘gentleman’ said he was from Crime Prevention Staffordshire and further to our conversation last week he just wanted to finalise some details with me. As I had not had a conversation with anyone from there I became suspicious and asked for his contact details. He asked me why and I said that obviously someone had fraudulently used my details or they themselves were trying to scam me. I asked for his manager and he said ‘ well I’m not going to do that I am I!’. I abruptly said to him..’well obviously its you trying to scam me then’- to my amazement he then replied ‘well, you can’t blame me for trying.. you sounded a little bit blonde on the phone! ‘ and laughed! I was just gob-smacked that he’d blatantly admitted it was a scam! Not sure what they are after whether its bank details or just to con you into advertising with them but I recieved a call from them again today , but this time it was a woman – it sounded like a call centre in the background. I tried to play along and asked her if she could just give me her number as I may be cut off and I’d like to ring her back. She immediately put the phone down on me. These scum shouldn’t be allowed to get away with this – all small businesses need every penny they have right now but these people have no conscience at all.
we have been contacted by the drugs awareness campaign today and also the child protection network its now getting beyond a joke something needs to be done about this. The start of the conversation congratulates us on the supporting them last time, and now the paymant is due for the latest advert we had agreed to do with them.
Panache September 5th, 2010 at 10:51
What I don’t get is this: you people are in a position to obtain ALL the details FROM these scammers (I’m not, since I don’t own a small business) – these scammers would OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO you their contact details, an address, even if it’s just a PO Box or a bank account for you to send your “sponsorship” money to, so why don’t you play along and obtain these details and then pass them onto the fraud desk of you local constabulary??
I’m sure the REAL police can EASILY and fairly cheaply set up a sting operation to catch them. Yet all you do is try to pick holes in their stories and expose them as scammers on the phone! No! What use is that, apart from you feeling a bit happy and superior that you’ve “told them”.
They are clearly laughing at you and still all the way to the bank.
Then they just keep on doing this until someone falls for it and it never ends.
Help catch them! It will feel much more satisfying too.
Panache September 5th, 2010 at 10:58
Some edits to my previous comment: (btw, webmaster, your temporary edit link doesn’t allow me to edit! It says I’m not authorised)
What I don’t get is this: you people are in a position to obtain ALL the details FROM these scammers (I’m not, because I don’t own a small business, so I was not targeted) since these scammers would OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO give you at least SOME contact details of where to send your money: an address (even if it’s just a PO Box) to send your cheque to, or a bank account for you to deposit your “sponsorship” money to, so why don’t you play along and obtain these details (as many as you can, the more the better, get both a physical address, telling them you’ll send a cheque, then tell them it would actually be more convenient for you to deposit the money directly into their account, I’m sure they’ll salivate at that prospect) and then pass all those details onto the fraud desk of you local constabulary??
I’m sure the REAL police can EASILY and fairly cheaply set up a sting operation to catch them. Yet all you do is try to pick holes in their stories and expose them as scammers on the phone! No! What use is that, apart from you feeling a bit happy and superior that you’ve “told them”.
They are clearly laughing at you and still all the way to the bank.
Then they just keep on doing this until someone falls for it and it never ends.
Help catch them! It will feel much more satisfying too.
Thank you for the comment; it is a good comment and it does raise some good points.
For the person/company being “scammed” to get to this point they would have to “accept” and “agree” to what the person is saying on the phone. The tactic they commonly use against anyone is to record the calls and claim they have recordings to proove the person they called “agreed and accepted” what they were “selling” (advertising/support)
This can then put the scammed person in a difficult position and the “scammers” could legally argue that the person they are chasing for money “agreed” to pay.
These people doing the scam are very convincing and quite forceful with the conversation, my partner was convinced to pay out and we have lost £900 in total. I am now making a list of scam calls and today we had good old wilson haines advertising on the phone with the cancer awareness advert we placed with them 4 months ago. I asked if he had a recording of the conversation and yes you guessed it, he did. I bet it had been edited from the initial scam we paid for, needless to say I told the guy that he was a scam artist and not to phone me again and put the phone down. Latest news …. hes hasnt phoned back …yet.
Colette September 28th, 2010 at 14:13
I just got another call from the Crime Prevention Booklet today – I have received several in the past year and every time I say no they ring back a couple of months later. Unfortunately this time when I told the girl that I am sick of saying to callers from their organisation I am not interested and never was, she said you were not called by us before, I argued and said yes I have spoken to your organisation before and said no she replied – THAT WAS NOT US YOU MARE – when I said Excuse Me she quickly put the phone down and on doing 1471 the number was withheld.
I am sick to death of these people calling and trying to scam me out of money. I have been wishing for a long time that the police could do something about this so I think the idea of obtaining addresses and/or bank details is a good one. I might give it a go next time if I can bear to listen to their drivel for long enough!
Bev Lodge November 9th, 2010 at 16:31
Yes I had a call 23-09-10 from”Crime Prevention Campaign’ They said that in Jan 2010 I had agreed to an ad with them for £499.00. Now they needed payment as they were ready to go to print. I stated that I did not ever agree to any advertising by phone and that I had no recollection of their company at all. The guy (Brad Evens) insisted that I had agreed and that it was legally binding and I would have to pay. He even stated a company that I had put an ad with. As I had made a marketing plan for my company for 20210 which did not include any outside advertising I could confidently answer that I DID NOT AGREE TO ANY ADVERTISING WITH THEM!!! He then said “Ok, I can do the same ad for £399.00″ By this time I was losing patience and said that I wanted to call him back. The number he gave me 08452122080 (does not exist). He then said “ok! If you say you did not agree I will drop it this time! And put the phone down!!!
09-11-10 I got a call from “Drugs Awareness Campaign” saying they had spoke to me a couple of months ago and now the money was seriously overdue’!!!WHAT! they didnt even use the same false company name. When I asked what company he worked for and their phone number he told me to ‘Shut up & listen’! I said ‘Just give me your details’ He said ‘I will answer you when I want to, just shut up!” At which point I said I believe this is a scam & put the phone down.
The saddest thing is I will now never agree to support anyone by phone even if they are a genuine charity. How can these people continue to have some rights in law when they hurt not just small business but also legitimate charity.
topfriz November 9th, 2010 at 21:36
my other half text me quite happy today to tell me she was thinking about taking out an advert in the local loughborough police station crime initative saying she would talk after work i told her to stop as she was being conned she says shes not paid anything yet lets hope shes telling the truth!!! p.s ive shown her this site
Jason C December 8th, 2010 at 22:39
I had a call to my mobile(from a mobile) today from a Guy (with a heavy Scouse accent) claiming to be from the Crime Prevention Bocklet. He did not tell me what company he was from or his name.
First thing he said that he was phoning up about removing my company name and details from the Charities Database. He then said he would also like to thanks me for my continued support with the Crime Prevention Bocklet.
Then he told me that I owe him £100 pound for an advertisment that I apparently ordered earlier this year and that he would be sending me the artwork along with my invoice. He then said his superviser will be calling to confirm me having my details removed.
About 10 minutes later I recieved 3 Unknown Callers in 10 minute intervals, none of which I answered. The a couple of hours later the first guy called and I missed his call.
Then a minute or 2 later I got this exact text message word for word.
“Jay if don’t pick up they cant take you off the data base they wil stil take payment and you wil stil get calls”
To which I replied:
“Sorry dont answer unknown & possibly withheld numbers, their usualy Publication Scammers on the other end”
Almost right after he phone me as if he did not read the message and asked me why I did not answer his supervisors call. I explained to him exactly what I said in my text.
He went onto say that it could be a problem with there phone systems (Not Likely) and that he would be calling personally tomorrow morning.
After reading this suffice it to say that he is not going to get an answer and I have phone my mobile service provider to request that they bar any calls from his numbers. I will also be reporting him to Fraud Action and Trading Standards tommorow.
If you get a call from 077*****183 and he has a Scouse Accent hang up immediately.
Jason C December 10th, 2010 at 17:48
Below is the complete updated of the conversation I has with the company involved in my last comment:
· Paul Thompson – 077*****183 called my mobile @ 12:49pm (8/12/10)
A caller claiming to be from Safety Planners Ltd called about the “Crime Prevention Booklet” called thanking me for my support and to say that I will be taken off the National Charity Database when my details have been confirmed by Paul’s Supervisor. Apparently after I had completed this process I should have been receiving an E-mail with a certificate attached. I was also going to be sent an invoice for £100 for advertisement as well as the final artwork for the “Crime Prevention Booklet” AFTER I had paid the total amount.
I did question the initial £100 charge for an order I placed saying that I don’t remember ever agreeing to pay for an advertising space in there “Crime Prevention Booklet” . But I thought I would hold my complaints about this possible misunderstanding for Paul’s Supervisor as the conversation was going nowhere with Paul.
· Unknown caller – Unknown Possibly Withheld number phoned my mobile @ 12:57pm. (8/12/10)
· Unknown caller – Unknown Possibly Withheld number phoned my mobile @ 1:10pm. (8/12/10)
· Unknown caller – Unknown Possibly Withheld number phoned my mobile @ 1:18pm. (8/12/10)
· Paul Thompson – 077*****183 called my mobile @ 3:07pm. (Personal Mobile) (8/12/10)
Phoned me but I missed the call.
· Paul Thompson – 077*****183 text my mobile with the following message @ 3:07pm. (8/12/10)
“Jay if u dont pick up they cant take u off the database they wil stil take payment and u wil stil get calls”
· I then replied @ 6:10 (8/12/10) with the following:
“Sorry don’t answer unknown & possibly withheld numbers, their usually Publication Scammers on the other end. However if you colleague would like to contact me on a unwithheld number then I would be more than happy to talk to them”
· Paul Thompson – 077*****183 called my mobile @ 6:11pm (8/12/10)
Asking why I was not answering his supervisors calls, I told him that I do not answer Unknown Callers on my mobile. He then went on to say that there must be a problem with the telephone switchboard at his company (unlikely). Then went onto say that he would call tomorrow morning.
· Paul Thompson – 077*****183 called my mobile @ 12:40pm (9/12/10)
Asking why I have not been answering his supervisors calls again, I said I had received none appart from the withheld number yesterday. I told him that I had been reading about a people having problem with Safety Planners Ltd. and a ‘Crime Prevention Booklet’ and he said there is a load going around but him and the company he worked for was not one of them. He then said “You cant tarnish me with the same brush” LOL
I then said that I had received no artwork or invoice for this order. He then went onto say that I had received their artwork and gave his company my go ahead. I said that I never received any artwork from them and there must have been a misunderstanding. I then went on to say would not be paying any invoice until I see some hard proof like an invoice or some artwork.
He then got really rude saying that I was a liar about not receiving any artwork and started shouting at me down the phone. Then said I remember me agreeing for you (Paul) to remove my details from the charity database but not to advertising in your booklet. He continued to be rude and shout at me.
Then I told him under immense pressure to go ahead with the payment (I cancelled my Card shortly after he hung up). But If I never received any evidence of the order after payment then I would be chasing Safety Planners Ltd. through trading standards. I then went on to ask him for his full name and company of which he was either reluctant to give it up or did not know it too well.
Then I had to really coax him for his companies full postcode to that he replied “I can’t remember it”. I then said “I want the full postcode please” to which he replied “You are really taking the piss now” and went down some stairs (toke the mobile with him) to go a get it for me LOL. I got the full postcode, then he hung up.
Its safe to say he and his company were definatly trying to scam me, either that or this Paul went to one of the worst customer service training class ever concieved LOL.
I have had no calls so far and I dont expect I will, It’ll be invoices from now on. They will be going straigh to Trading Standards and Consumer Direct.
I will keep you posted with any updates on this matter and thanks for reading this long ass post lol
We are a business in Manchester. We have just had a phone call from a girl/woman supposedly from the ‘Cancer Awareness Campaign’ regarding an advert we had apparently agreed to at the end of September. No recollection of this.
Think she must have seen an advert in a local booklet we’d done (as she described this). She said our artwork was ready and we’d agreed to a 1/8 page for £249.
Thankfully we kept insisting we knew nothing of it and she eventually put the phone down.
Only after this did I google about advertising scams and found your website here.
Hope she doesn’t manage to get money out of any other of the advertisers in that booklet (Local2Local).
I have done some research into trafalger press after being scammed by them and it looks like they have changed there name to impact print and are supposedly based at GRG house in manchester but have been there and they have got no office there so i believe they are diverting the phone lines to trafalger house in swinton. I have reported everything i have put together to trading standards and am waiting for a reply.
Facilities Manager January 28th, 2011 at 17:33
Received a call from an indvidual pretending to be a police officer and the nonsense he came out with was quite alarming, considering he was just some tele sales person in an office lying through his teeth to con money out of people.
He started off asking if we’d had any problems at the campus and promising to increase police presence in the area!
Total rubbish, but I went along with it to see where he was going.
He then thanked me for supporting the last Crime Prevention Campaign (which we’d never supported) then rather disturbingly the conversation took a strange twist and he went on to say they were doing another campaign supporting the soldiers and their familes in the war, a matter that sits close to my heart.
Cutting a long story short, it was all a con and done on the back of something we’d never supported in the first place and trying to take money out of the pockets of soldiers that are fighing now, disgusting!
I received an invoice from ‘Help the Forces’ from Manchester, within a few days of the conversation and I’ve since passed their details onto the local Trading Standards Office, the police and wrote a letter to my local MP.
Be warned, dont pay ‘Help the Forces’ anything it’s a disgusting con!
Office Manager January 31st, 2011 at 11:12
Just received a similar call – they had the name of our old FD & also the new MD which is who he asked to speak to. You dont just get through to them in our office so he had to speak to me. Told me that crime in our area was down by 7% but then couldn’t pronounce the area we are based in! Then told me he is sending out the report with all the stats as it would take too long to discuss them all and if i want to advertise again (we have never advertised in the past) it would be £195 for a 1/8 peage. He’s calling me back next Monday as I was too busy to talk!! That should be an interesting call!
I have just had my 3rd phonecall from ‘Quality Care’ in the past couple of years. They always insist that the charity I work for has agreed to pay for an advert on a wallplanner to help disabled children (which we certainly have not as we do no paid advertising). They say I have entered into a verbal contract and they will send an invoice. In the past when I have asked for the name and charity number they have hung up. This time she gave me the charity number 1060259. I have rung the charity commission and the charity contact to make them aware that their number is being used by scammers.
I hope noone gets caught by them and pays up!
Its disgusting that people use the idea of ‘disabled children’ to try to con people out of money.
Apparently Wirral Trading Standards are looking into the matter.
As soon as I opened my business at the beginning of October 2010, I received several calls from Police Drink aware campaign, The Fire Brigade safety awareness campaign, which although I declined due to a lack of budget I thought were genuine. I then received a call from the Police again for the ‘Road Safety Campaign’ booklet, and I did wonder if the second one was a genuine call. The callers were all very professional and convincing. This morning I received a call from Natalie at the Police Crime Prevention Campaign asking for me by name and claiming I had agreed to ‘help them’ back in October and that the booklet was being published next week and my business was on the front page. Confident that I had not agreed to this I told her she was mistaken and she asked me to confirm my name again, which I did. She then got a little stroppy and said I had definitely agreed to this and I had to pay. I told her I definitely hadn’t agreed to it and the line went dead. |It was only at this point that I was sure this was a scam and looked for confirmation on the internet. Hence my post. The Police are not interested in this sort of thing. It is up to the prospective victims to be aware that they may be scammed and be very cautious. Panache is very naive if he/she thinks the Police are going to mount a sting operation. They ask for payment via debit card and the transaction could well be carried out abroad. My elderly mother in law was cheated out of £14,000. |The money was taken in several payments via foreign banks. The Police said tough she should have been more careful (she was diagnosed with alzeimers a few weeks later). The bank refused to accept any responsibilty or attempt to recover the money despite the payments being out of the ordinary.
I had the same call yesterday…..
how can people be allowed with getting away with this?
David March 3rd, 2011 at 13:23
Got the same call today from “THE POLICE”! Saying they were part of the Crime prevention campaign working on behalf of a company called MEL. Apparently I had given them permission to publish an advert in a brochure and they wanted to know if there are any local businesses or schools who would like to receive the brochure…once I’d said no they proceed to say “ok, all we need is the payment details”. When I asked for their location they said that it wasn’t relevant so I asked again and they hang up. I have lodged a formal complaint with the police and have a telephone number for them to try from their caller ID.
Hope they all rot in hell.
I have also received a number of calls from the crime prevention group, my partner took most of the calls and they asked for myself and would only talk to myself. Today I received a call from a female claiming to be from the crime prevention group, I’m well aware of some of these scam’s as an ex Police Officer, I asked what crime prevention group they were from, she stated Herford, I said im sure Herford was in Germany!!!! she the stated they served my post code and stated the first 3 figures of the post code. I asked for their number, address and for her name….
Her response was “Go eat a piece of C*ck you F*@king C*%T” then proceeded to slam the phone down… Nice sales pitch!!!!!!!!
Dont fall for it guys!!!
Michael March 19th, 2011 at 15:11
My wife has been hit on the phone by these people. She has been badgered so much by “advertisers” it is destroying the fun of her small business.They are remarkably persistent, saying they have done a deal to reduce the amount of debt!!!!
I’m getting their numbers blocked but I am concerned that apparently so little can be done to stop them. Calling the police doesn’t get much help other than a little advice.
Unfortunately, as a vicar I am professionally gullible, but it is remarkable how when I start challenging the phone gets cut off.
Flat battery my a***.
I feel nervous even sharing this news in case it is hosting yet another scam.
Michael March 19th, 2011 at 15:50
Just after I posted I had the fourth phone call today. Persistant or what. I resisted the temptation to say my employer wrote the rule book as he did a double take on my ‘Hello, the vicarage!’
I stated that yes, I was a vicar and because of that I knew about data protection and that if the request had been made that my wife’s name was withdrawn from lists by law it had to be honoured.
I put the phone down before calling down thunderbolts from heaven.
Angela April 7th, 2011 at 19:52
I received a call today from the Cheshire Crime Prevention unit telling me that my booklets are ready to be sent to the school I chose to sponsor, I asked him which booklets and he said the National Crime Prevention booklets and I had requested they be sent to a certain local school, when I said that I had done no such thing he said “I can assure you Angela (first name terms!!) that you did, I have a telephone recording of you agreeing to the advert and sponsorship if I would like to hear it”, I told him it would be pointless as it will be a scam and I have no intention of wasting my time and I would be putting the phone down now,I haven’t heard back from him and when I dialled 1471 it was a withheld number.
Sadly I am not surprised as I have been caught out before, in 1997 I DID agree to sponsor a child safety awareness booklet and was sent 150 copies with a quarter page advert so thought nothing more about it, OMG did that open the flood gates the following year! I got caught out that year because I genuinely couldn’t remember back 8 mths previously as to whether I had had such a phone call and the threat of legal action worried me, after that I began to get more and more so I started arguing the point and hanging up, I realised that when I asked them to send the paperwork through (so I could get some of their details, the addresses where very similar, all childrens safety charities (I don’t have children and actually run an animal focused business)and all based in manchester.
I thought I had managed to get them stopped until I got this one today but as they all start their conversations the same way I caught on very quickly as to who they were, I have also been called by the ambulance service, the fire protection servce and today the crime prevention unit.
Is it worth contacting the police?? I have no name or telephone number to give them but I certainly will not be caught out again.
I used to work at Trafalgar Press Ltd and I only worked there a few weeks as it is not humain. They charge customers from £99 a year to £999 although they ring back up to 4 times a year. The money however about 0.7% will actually go to the charites crimestoppers the rest in there pockets and the books in which people have advertised in do not even get published often they only print about 100 and provide the customer with one only. It is 100% con and they spend the money on flash cars and works weekends out.
This scam is happening here in Australia too, they sure do get around don’t they.
I got a call from them today, a lady called Natalie who was calling to ‘renew’ our sponsorship. When I said that we had not provided any sponsorship, she said her records showed that we had taken a package. I told her categorically that she was incorrect at which point she put the phone down! Needless to say the number was withheld..
Jacqueline McGonigle May 19th, 2011 at 09:56
Just had a call this morning from a Natalie from Crime Prevention Team regarding my involvement in a publication that is going to press in three weeks. I had apparently been contacted in Feb – impossible I only opened my office in March and when she mentioned the £99 due I said, no no no and she hung up.
Just because we’re Irish doesn’t mean we’re thick….nice try Natalie but I sincerely hope no one else falls for this.
I have been pestered by a firm called Target media in Cheshire, who claim I agreed to an advert in a community magazine back in Feb/March, I do not recall this as I don’t advertise this way and said I now owe them £400, which I refused to pay, they contacted me again via email sending the supposed advert proof and another invoice for a reduced price of £199.00. I have since ignoring this recieved 3 more invoices and a call today, asking for the money, they say it is recorded so I asked to hear it, I heard a recording from 4th May telling me I can have a discount, which I said well ok but Im not paying as I didnt agree, so now today I have been offered a further discount.
Has anyone heard of Target Media? or had the same problem and what am I supposed to do about it.
What I have done.
Buy a cheap mobile phone – around £15.00, £10.00 pay as you go voucher, and redirect these scammers from the main business phone and any other mobile to this one. It will have no personal or business contacts on it, so of no use to you; use it solely for the scammers.
Accept the initial call, be very brief and hang up. Turn to silent, don’t answer the conformation of order call that they will follow up with, leaving them snookered.
You will finish up with about a dozen anonymous missed calls each day. These will diminish as time goes by.
Another one gets redirected to this phone and the cycle begins again. Happy days are back again!
Stephen June 7th, 2011 at 12:35
Natalie certainly gets around! I asked if she was from the police, and she said no, we’re a charity and told me I’d agreed to pay half of something in March, I said I do’n….She hung up… getting predictive in her old age! Didn’t understand Ben Andrews method of redirecting to mobile seems extreme to me!
I have just been called by a woman with a Northern accent from ‘Quality Care’. She asked for me by name, and claimed my company had been ‘helping’ with the ‘disabled children’ charity wall planner as agreed in a telephone call in March (2011), and that the wall planner was now ‘ready to go’. My company is actually a partnership, just me and my wife, and we both know exactly what things we agree to, and this was not one of them! I told her that we do support various charities, but her’s is not one of them, and she immediately said it must be a mix up at ‘their end’, and that she had not made the call in March. She then hung up. I did 1471, number withheld, then an internet search shows this scam. So, it is still going on, beware.
Kieron June 9th, 2011 at 14:37
Had this happen twice Re ‘Crime Prevention’
I did take out a genuine ad 2-3 years ago and got the booklet with my ad in.
Then I got scam calls insisting that I had agreed to take further ads on the latest editions. When I insisted that I hadn’t they said that they had the conversation taped, I said that any tape they had of me agreeing was fake and illegal and hung up. They tried it on again today, and when I got annoyed, they immediately hung up. They always call from a blocked number, so you can’t trace them. I had instructed my bank & credit card company not to release any payment to them. They had obviously got my details from the original genuine ad I had taken out.
Shelley June 14th, 2011 at 12:39
I today have filed a police report against 2 companies, the initial one was the police scam, my boss paid them twice. then a different company sent through an invoice, again these people are bullies, rude and very unprofessional. The police told me that not a branch up and down the country would do these charity things for this very reason, all of them are scams and i urge anyone who has a paper trail leading to these criminals bank accounts to go to the police so they can piece together the info and catch these losers
Jackie June 20th, 2011 at 15:25
June 20th 2011 2.45pm
I have just been contacted by Ella of “The Crime Prevention Team” who told me that the Magazine publication I had agreed to advertise in (for charity) has been printed and that iwould be circulated to 50,000 businesses in our area. I told her that I hadnt agreed to anything at which point she said that I had given her all our business details in March and that she had a recording of the actual phonecall. She read out our business details (with the wrong post code) to me and I told her that she could have had these from the internet. When I insisted that I hadnt agreed to anything she ‘barked’ that she would send a copy of the phonecall recording with the invoice and when I asked her how much the invoice was for she put the phone down on me. The telephone number was withheld
Secret Name! June 22nd, 2011 at 15:04
Same thing happened to me.
I reported them to the police who did a reverse number look up. The police weren’t interested in the fact that it was telesales, but the recording I have of them claiming to be for the police.
I have no idea what the outcome was, but they phoned again today and after questioning the rather dopey sounding guy said his employer was a “James E James LTD”.
I can’t find much info about them online other than an article by The Sun.
Just me June 23rd, 2011 at 10:07
And so it continues. I too have just got this call saying how great our add was and the thanks for the support.
Then basically saying you owe us money for the last add (which we havent placed).
Now we do advertise but are business is in a very unusual market and magazine adds of most kind wouldnt help it. (it is legal lol)
They wouldnt reply very well to any questions but they knew my name which worried me.
Same speal as the rest of you tho and said they were from crime prevention publication!
Seems like peop0le never give up!
This must the same scam
We had a call last week from a guy called Nick claiming he was from Target Media and that we had advertised in a Local Lifestyle magazine. The call was very confusing.
After a couple of days we received an invoice for £199 and a proof ad lifted directly from our website saying we had 2 days to respond. Our business supplies a service to a specific market and our web content and images carry a copyright. Needless to say we contacted them and requested how they thought we would place an add just on a confusing telephone conversation. They said they had a voice recording from us placing the add. We requested all this writing from them to which they responded ‘that is not the way we do business!’. The conversation then got very heated as they tried their ‘bully boy tactics.
The web site they quote http://www.targetmediaonline.co.uk is a blogg page, the Local Lifestyle magazine they quote as far as Google is concerned does not exist. I have sent them an email telling them I will not deal with them but not even sure this exists although it has not bounced back.
I do have an address from them but not sure if I should publish it here.
Reading back James E James seems to have been a scam as well check out http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=51934603
It seems we are be plagued with scammers. We just have to be vigilant.
Simon Leher July 20th, 2011 at 14:31
I just had a call saying thank you for our advert in Armed Forces Magazine.
We have never advertised in Armed Forces Magazine.
I asked him to email me the advert and he said fine.
Then, three hours later a lady phoned me, wanting to send me the invoice. I said we had never advertised in Armed Forces Magazine. She said she didn’t know anything about that.
We then said goodbye.
Just had a call was quite funny as know it was a scam as soon as she said “the police” I have just started my business I was expecting some dodgy calls feel sorry for the people that get conned by these scum so just for fun do this -keepthem on ther phone for over 3-4 mins pretending how amazing this all sound then afterm this time annouce your self as pc….. from the telephone crime prevention unit this call has been traced and a response team are on route , you wont get called again
Gordon July 20th, 2011 at 18:57
We are getting something similar to Pete from the 7th July 2011, well my partner is, its from the same scam company Target Media, only this is meant to be a ‘Communitiy Safey Publication’ where they are asking for £299.
They even use the same website, sorry blog page.
Again, they say they have a telephone conversation recorded stating an agreement to pay, buy they won’t let me listen to it, unless my partner tells them I can. Load of bull if you ask me.
So, told them they are not getting a penny, and can swing for it.
Have been in touch with Cheshire Police, and have a contact there, who checked out the address 69a London Road, Alderley Edge, apparently its just a company who rent out mailboxes, and Target Media have one of them.
The MD there says he is reporting them to trading standards.
We are also persuing this through Consumer Direct who have now referred this to Trading Standards too.
If you enter their 0844 991 6758 number on google it goes straight to a link stating that its a scam.
We keep getting letters, with no names, just a position, but heres the fun bit, the account manager has two different signatures, and the pre litigation manager has the same signature as one of the account managers, how cools that!!
I trade, on a small scale, in kiloware -stamps on paper.
Received an Invoice from Wilson Haines demanding payment of £249 for a quarter page advert in ‘Fire Safety 2011′. However what that publication has to do with stamp collecting is very obscure.
Have reported to local police though I am now told it is a civil matter.
Am now going to enquire as to whether their account with Barclays is still functioning as I told told I could make an immediate payment to their account.
Emmad July 28th, 2011 at 17:26
I have just had a call on my mobile from a scouser saying he is from Crime Prevention Unit and thanking us for our support. He told me that my partner asked him to call me and he approved an ad back in May (of which I have never seen so don’t believe it was ever sent) and that he had a recording of the agreement. I know my partner would never have agreed to anything without consulting me first. I told him this and he was having none of it, I asked his company name again and he said he did not work for a company he worked for the police! He suggested that I speak with my partner and he would call me back in half an hour, which was over an hour ago and I am still awaiting his call.
I will tell him, if he ever does ring, that I know it is a scam and will let you all know my outcome!
I too have been scammed by Target Media at Alderley Edge, Cheshire earlier this year. I stupidly paid them £159.20 for an advert which they convinced me I had agreed to and have since realised this was a scam. Since then I have had many more so called companies saying I had agreed to an advert with them and demanding payment and threatening to put the matter in the hands of debt collectors but I inform them I have never heard of them and put the phone down. I have been in contact with Trading Standards many times over the past few months.
I had a guy from Liverpool pretending to be from the poilice and fire brigade asking me about an ad. When I said no he called me a f**king plantpot. Strange insult. I called the police in Edinburgh and they said they've just about had enough complaints to persue a case. I reckon everyone should call the police and get the scammers shut down…
Just had a call from National Fire Awareness Campaign thanking me for the advert we placed in a booklet that was sent to schools last year. Stopped him mid speal as I pointed out that the company details he had just quoted does not trade & would therefore not take out adverts with anyone. "Oh my details must be wrong" end of call
lottie August 26th, 2011 at 05:53
had the same today but asked them to call back tomorrow cant wait to have some fun with them now thanks for everyone who reports on scams like thease its hard enough when your a small business x
Just had a phone call from a man with a Liverpool accent. Said he was from the Police, and was I interested in advertising my business in their magazine. My daughter put the mobile number he was calling from (07432738965) into Google and this website came up, with one having got a call from the same number which of course is a total scam. I said could I have his name and number as I wanted to check the details out (as I knew from this website it was a scam). He gave me his 'name' being John Davis as well as a website policecommunityclubs.org. I told him I was aware it was a scam and that I would report him to the Police and put the phone down. I have now got a further call from the number which I haven't yet answered. Please anyone reading this be aware of this scam, do not fall for it. I spoke to my local Police station and they said they did not call me so its a scam.
Just had a call from a heavy scouse accent saying he was from the police.I asked why he was using a mobile phone if he was the police he said it was cheaper!!! dont be taken in ask questions you will find the phone soon gets put down
got one from Leanne of the crime prevention unit: i asked who were they - i'd never heard of them, and she accused me of being rude and said she would send me the booklet and i could get in touch with her superior and she hung up.
all nuisance phone calls receive the same treatment from me -as soon as i realise it is a nuisance/scam caller i just leave them talking to themselves.
it has proved 100% successful with no further calls from the nuisance
if you can listen to them talking then their realisation you are not listening/responding its very funny
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Still going on today had 5 calls from bloke calling himself john asking for £199 + vat for Crime prevention booklet & would send me 10 complimentry copies when payed & published.
i told him not able to help no funds for this advertizing he became rude & told me ark work was done but needed to be sent for proff by me .I told him dont want it he told me he will take me to court as he has recording of the conversation so i told him to send it but he can't ????? he didn't withold his number but will not answer my calls or text as i texted him asking him to phone me about payment NO REPLY ???
Going to local police station now ,will post what they say
Just recieved bill from Wilson Haines for advert in Fire Safety Mag. Never agreed to any advert to my recollection. in researching them found 3 different addresses, loads of forum pages like this one. Their website is "under construction". Have left details with consumer direct, and they have advised me to demand proof that i agreed to this advert, info on company and fire safety campaign. Wonder if i'll get any reply…doubt it somehow.
I am sorry to hear that there are alot of people who become a victim of Fraud or a Scam everyday. People who mak eup these childish and perfetic ways to hurt and steal others identitity is a joke and need to take a step back and look at themselves.
These days it is so easy to impersonate a Police Officer, you can purchase queipment of webistes, create your own desighn and just say your an Officer.
I use to be in the Police Service myself, the next time ANYONE recieves a call you should request their should number, what force and station they are attatched to and also their name and rank. for thos ewho know the law you can ask them trick questions like asking them to resite the Caution, section 1 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (Pace) or if Arrested at a premises when are they aloud to execute a Section 32 Search after this I bet that that only thing you be hearing is the phone dial good luck into catching these silly and childish people and I KNOW FOR A FACT that together we can identify these individuals and bring them to Justice
Not conning me October 20th, 2011 at 14:15
Watch out for the new one, The CSJournal. CSJOURNAL CSJOURNAL CSJOURNAL CSJOURNAL
BERYL HUGHES October 25th, 2011 at 21:56
I also have had these people. One woman said that my husband definitely agreed to place an advert in the magazine CPA advert I asked if she was sure and she said yes. I asked her if she was a clairvoyant as he has been dead for five years. It was a wonderful moment. I am at the moment suffering from CPA media calls and invoices in red . There are so many of us small hard working business perople that have been scammed and pressured when I find these sites that I cannot understand why Greater Mancheser Police have not been able to arrest these criminals. They are demanding money with menaces and I thought this was a crime.
is 'the blue line' one of the scamer as we are being harrased at this time to pay an invoice for an advert which isnt our product
We were contact by Wilson Haines in Sept 2011 and unfortunately my colleague fell for it and gave over his credit card details for a Fire Safety publication for £189.05! I have since told him to cancel the card. We were then contacted by a company called Jubilee & Wilson asking for £178.80 for Drug Awareness Publications. Both companies are based in Manchester so it seems they are either one company or are working together. I contacted Jubilee & Wilson and asked for proof of agreement on numerous occation. They say they have a recorded verbal agreement but are yet to provide this. I have also requested their company registration number and VAT number. Still nothing. Have now spoken to Trading Standards and they have said to send a recorded delivery letter asking for proof of agreement and to tell them they have 7 days to respond. Hopefully this will put an end to it. Jubilee and Wilson are on 0161 653 3087 and address is 137 Jubliee Road. Checked Google maps and there are no offices at that address, just a small house!
Hi, had the same call to our church today. Lady said we had agreed to a one off advert in an anti crime campaign booklet last year July, that they had removed our details from the system, but we needed to pay 199 pounds (due next year). She said we can pay in installments. When I questioned her about when and where we had agreed to this and to please forward me proof, the phone was put down. The tel number was with held.Outrageous!!
I just had this call a second ago! Hello its Tom from National Crime Prevention in Maybole, dont worry your not in trouble…..
Turns out its an advertising company, I happily sat through his speel and the following guy who took my order, Ill await the media they are sending out before ignoring them.
FLOWERBOMB January 5th, 2012 at 16:48
Hi ive just opened a business in the wirral merseyside and i am being pestered by "windows Media" they say they have recorded me agreeing to a verbal agreement to advertise in their crime aware magazine. they sent me emails and letters from debt collectors and wont stop ringing even though i have made it quite clear i am not paying them.
The charity i work for has just been targeted with the exact same scam line as El who posted on the 7th February last year. Calling themselves Quality care and claiming that I agreed to advertise in a wall planner for disabled children. at a cost of £95! So they are still at it
They have made at least 4 calls over the last few days and are very evasive when you try to get any information from them.
I think if they call again I will try Annie Jackson's suggestion and just leave them talking to themselves. 9sept 20th 20110
In the meantime I will contact trading standards.
It's just so disgusting what some people get up to. Trying to scam money from charities!!
I have been in touch with Consumer Direct through my local trading standars office and they inform me that there is such a thing as: Unsolicited Goods and Services Act.
No-one has to pay fo runsolicited goods and it would be up to these scammers to try to prove that goods have been ordered, so do not pay for anything.
Call your local trading standards and make sure others know about this. If you get more calls tell them you have taken advice and quote the act.
Gas Service Engineers March 2nd, 2012 at 13:32
Hi – Yet another warning of this scam, Received a phone call this morning from a lady whom seemed to know me very well ? Referred to a verbal aggrement in November to place an advert in the Staffordshire Crime Prevention Magazine, the magazine was ready to be distributed, as they were a charitable organisation no vat or tax was payable and needed to pay £199.00 or it was possible to pay by instalments if we were unable to pay in one go. As we agreed a one off advert our details would be removed from their data base.
We have helped charites in the past so for a minute a thought we could of possibly agreed to do this but as my father was dying in November I couldn't remember the conversation, I then said I couldn't remember a proof of the advert and if the magazine was to be sent out they must have done a print run, when I said again I haven't approved what you can print she hanged up the phone.
I couldn't believe it, did a quick search & found this thread, I also did 1471 the number was withheld, these people need to be stopped, people are going to get caught out with this & pay money for adverts that don't exist and using a charity as a scam it's only going to harm genuine charities, who is doing anything about this ?
I'm now worried as I got a similar call yesterday asking me if I wanted to advertise in a community booklet.
I started up a small dog walking business 6 months ago and as I'd recently spoken to my local enterprise agency about arranging some advertising so I coudl grow the business and the person asked for me by name thought they'd passed my name onto someone. He said the booklet was a local community thing and the business advisors I'd been to see work with other local businesses and the council to help businesses that are starting up.
I don't think I specifically agreed to anything, he was taking about the booklet and the prices for different page sizes. I said that I didn't understand what he was saying as he was talking so quickly and that he should email me some details so that I could see what he was offering. He gave me a web address for c-i-media.co.uk, and I said I'd look through that and call him in a few days if I was interested, he wouldn't give me a phone number (saying they wouldn't have the specific details he did) and that he'd call back tomorrow. But he did ask what size I would be interested in and I said probably a smaller one (I didn't specify), but I'd have to look over the information and see what was being offered.
It was only afterwards that I realised it was probably a scam and googled it. But now I'm worried that what I said was enough to be considered an agreement.
Spud – Don't worry in any way about an 'agreement' – We were in exactly the same boat. They are right about the recorded agreement in theory, but they do so much wrong legally (i.e. not having a proper VAT number) no court anywhere would be on their side (it would never even get that far – take it from a lawyer friend of mine).
Nothing they threaten will EVER get to court. I'm in a circle of friends that has 4 lawyers in it so I asked some of them about the right Windows Media have and they all laughed.
They use shock tactics with new businesses who are probably unwise to these sorts of scams e.g. saying you've been recorded to try and scare people. It holds no water whatsoever. Even if they threaten you with debt collectors (and in some cases it seems they have sent fake letters out), only a judge can appoint them, people can't do it off their own back.
Like I said, don't worry at all. All their legal threats and laughably worthless due to the fact they are so fraudulent. I can understand why you'd be worried – it happened to us earlier this year. But the threat of legal action from our side stopped all email and phone contact.
I too have had a similar problem and admittedly I fell for it the first time and they have had about £100 from me but when I found out it was a scam I tried to get my money back but could not get in touch with anyone.
The joke of it all is they keep ringing me and using different company names to try and get me to renew – I know its the same people becuase they keep telling me my password on the account. As soon as I try to get any kind of information they hang up!
Company names I have are:
Accounts Department at Lancashire Fire & Rescue Service (NB I have been in touch with the ACTUAL Lancs fire service and it is not them!)
Safety Information Press
Safe Nation / Safenation.org
Crime Prevention Campaign / Press office.
If anyone finds anything out, speak up! Bastards.
Got a call from the Crime prevention campaig, demanding money. Idiots.
We just had a phone call saying they were sending proofs out for the police booklet how many copies dit we want
as soon as i started to question about this she said we had booked in january. Then put the phone down when i said no i dont think so.
Had 4 calls today from"Ian Conway" who says he is from the police. Calls not taken by me 3 from our receptionist abd 1 to a fellow director.As has been said previously the "REAL POLICE" are not interested and say it is a trading standards issue. If I walked down the street and started saying I was a "Ploce officer" they would soon pull me in. For the last few years these scumbags have tried to con me without success. Like all scams do not pay them a penny.
Kelvin May 12th, 2012 at 00:40
I have spent a good hour reading through these posts only to realise I have fallen for the trap.
We are a new business set up and recieve a call 2days ago from "West Yorkshire Fire Service" they claimed we would be the only cleaning company put in a crime prevention book and gave me the prices for different sizes. He rang off a mobile number which I didn't think nothing of because I thought it was the Fire Service and to be honest being a new business I didn't know thing like this happen. He told me his name (Can not remember) and he was very friendly. The phone number was 07510780974 As I was busy and wanted to pass this information onto my business partner before agreeing so I asked him to email me the details and I would pass them on and get back to him. He then went on to saying all we need is conformation that your intrested in the publication so we can stop canvassing for a cleaning company….so I said it would be something we are intested in being a new business and with the book being sent out in the local area it would generate us business but I do need to talk to my business partner so could you ring back in about 15mins….he said yes, speak to you soon and that was that.
He rang back and I let my business partner speak to him and explain everything, she then said its something we would have to speak about overnight and said could you ring us tomorrow, he agreed and that was that.
Friday 11/05/12 he phoned me in the morning and I answered. To cut along story short I said we don't really have the budget for this sort of thing yet. He then said because we are a new business he can give us further discount which won us round and he said how it works is we will invoice you within 14days and you will recieve a certificate etc in the post. He said if you can not afford the full balance we will sort out a payment plan so this kind of won us round even more being a new business….anyway to cut it short I agreed to do it at £239 no payment was taken on the day and no bank details was given. He took my home address, website and email address and said his director would ring to confirm and thanks for going ahead and that was that.
Within 5mins his 'director' phoned back on a witheld number and said call are recored is that ok and I said yes. He then went on to saying "so you agree with the publication at the price stated and wish to go ahead with it"? I said "yes" then he said great you will recieve the invoice within 14days and certificate and everything will go straight to print today….I said great and phone call was finished.
Now I like to research things, stupidly enough I didn't do it before hand but this is how I found out about this website. Now everything does seem like its a con…..
*He wouldn't email me, The fire service calling from a mobile, The director calling back on witheld, The fact he said it would all go straight to print yet he didn't have any of what I wanted to put into the publication, he pronouced the home town wrong and if he was local he would know, everytime I said no we will leave it, he dropped the price and so much more.
I'm worried I'm going to be getting invoiced now and have loads of debt collectors etc coming for us. I am going to ring the number back in the morning and then call the police and the fire service and trading standards.
What else should I do?
Kelvin May 12th, 2012 at 11:20
Following up my previous post, I have just spoken to the Police who have stated they wouldn't have a leg to stand on becuase they are scamming people and not living up to their end of the bargin so don't worry about it. She was very helpful and told me not to worry and also stated it was a load of rubbish and that they have heard of these scams before. I gave them the phone number we was contacted on and all the rest of the details and now we await a phone call from our local police who will probably advise us further.
Small Business Owner May 15th, 2012 at 17:00
Latest scam in a long line (once your business details are on the "gullible list" they are passed around between scammers) is Stevenson and Judge Ltd. re their magazine "Crime Prevention Campaign". Same old story, that way back in January you agreed to place an ad. and payment is due, or a cancellation fee of X amount is due. Co. Director is Mr Thomas Stephen Judge. Address 17 Poplar St, Rochdale, M24 2BS, which is a residential property. Tel. 01616 432 295. My advice is not be intimidated, keep a note of calls/conversations as they may start to harrass you, and prepare yourself for many other scammers to call you over the next year or so, as you are on "the list"!
Big Al May 16th, 2012 at 08:02
I had a call last night (15-05-12) to my mobile and the lady claimed to be from greater Manchester police and she told me my mobile phone was registered as stolen and could I confirm my name and mobile phone provider? Stupidly I did this as I thought there's not a lot she could do with this information? I then rang Orange who confirmed she can't do a lot with the info?
Suzanne June 20th, 2012 at 11:35
Hi have been getting these calls for the last year, they ask for various managers within my company and with the same line, to thank us for the support we have given them in the past year…the calls are very tedious when asked what this is for as we have no involvement with the police (it can also be the fire service they claim to be from), you just get the reply for your support. I have repeatedly asked that our number is taken off their database…and still they call. I wondered what on earth they are getting from the call (apart from harassment/ nuisance call delight!) but from this forum it seems they try to sell a charity crime prevention book? Absolutely bizarre and complete time wasters!
Chris July 3rd, 2012 at 15:51
Looks like the 'David Williams' is doing the rounds again. Got a call with a mobile number on to call him back saying he was with the Leicester Police. Called him back. He said he was with the Leicester Police and working on behalf of a crime awareness magazine. He wanted to send me a certificate to thank me for my support in the magazine before. (I remember being called by these people before and reported it as a scam then – perhaps two or three years ago). I said I was sure we had never advertised with them. I asked if he had a web site for referrence said he had and then hung up. He sounded extremely unprofessional throughout the call. I have reported it to the Leicester police.
Jules July 11th, 2012 at 16:37
I very stupidly paid these people money for an "advert" in September last year. They are now ringing again saying I owe them money for an item agreed in January. Needless to say I have no paperwork and no memory of signing up for anything in else (in fact had decided not to do any advertising due to budget constraints). Managed to stall them today but they have promised to ring back tomorrow. Having read these posts has certainly convinced me I was conned and I will send them packing. Is there any point reporting them? How have other people got on with taking this to the police ?
They're still at it – just got a call today – the third this year.
peter taylor August 2nd, 2012 at 15:52
had 4 phone calles from this number in the last few days they where told in plain english where to go fcuk off
Stone Junction August 6th, 2012 at 14:10
I had a similar sounding call a couple of days ago (Aug 2012); northern lady calling herself Emma rang my firm asking to speak to the business owner. I replied that she was talking to him and she launched into a schpiel about having contacted me several months before and that she was calling from the Surrey Crime Prevention Unit. Instinctively I asked her what their exact affiliation was to Surrey Police (only cops have crime prevention units) and she started tap dancing, eventually explaining that they were not connected with the police at all. Before I could press her any further she put down the phone. Suspicious, I called Surrey Police to report the call. An officer explained that it was the secind report they'd had that day. I asked what they were intending to do about it. He said "well there is not much to go on as it was a call from a withheld phone number". When I suggested the police could seek a court order to force disclosure of the number from whichever phone network provider she was calling from, he gave a somewhat weary laugh and said that no crime had been perpetrated (by dint of her just stopping short of impersonating a police officer). My view is that there is clearly a group of scammers (I've heard about a gang of these people operating out of Manchester) and that they are sitting in a room using pay as you go mobiles in an effort to elicit sensitive information/ sell dodgy ad space in non-existent publications to people less suspecting than I was. You might hope that any police force worth its salt would use its extensive powers to look into this by getting the numbers then triangulating signals until they found the perpetrators' location. Then nick them, sending a powerful message to the con-artists (and others like them) that such criminal enterprises will be exposed and closed down, with convictions to follow. It would only take one example of this to show the bad guys that they can't rip people off with the total impunity they presently seem to enjoy. As it stands, they would probably have to scam Prince William before the cops took any notice…
I have been having phone calls from Jubilee & Wilson saying I agreed to advertise in there booklet [dont remember], there address is 137 Middleton Road, Manchester, 0161 6531333 has anyone heard of them?? they are now going to take me to court as I refuse to pay the bill, which has no vat number on [£240+ vat] I was told they have just vat registered and forgot to put number on.
Vickie August 23rd, 2012 at 15:30
Received a call today from Ben Hall saying I had agreed to advertise in a Crime Prevention Magazine and they were now calling to offer me a discounted rate of £99 instead of £149. They said I needed to answer some questions for me to be eligible for the rate. I questioned the dates they called and I had no recollection so therefore would not be answering any questions they confirmed all telephone conversations were recorded. I asked Ben to let me hear the calls where I had agreed to this advertising and he said he would send me all of the information through the post with the invoice, therefore we needed to answer the questions now. When I refused to answer any questions until I heard the recordings he asked me what my problem was! Obviously I explained what my problem was and was not answering any questions today. I asked if his supervisor was available as I thought his attitude was a joke to which he said she was, however I was then passed to someone called Curtis! Eventually after discussing the problem I had Curtis hung up. BEWARE ALL THEY HAVE NOT GONE AWAY!!!!!!
We've been receiving these calls in Chelsea for probably 6 – 7 years. I received the 3rd call of the week only this morning. Some years they have actually claimed to be The Police, this year they have been saying they are calling on behalf of the Police. They are difficult to shake off and it is only the fact that I have worked here for so long that saves us from falling for their stories claiming that we have previously supported the campaign. Recently one of them managed to get through to one of our Directors, who only took the call out of courtesy, now they are ringing with renewed vigor because they think we've fallen for their con trick!! Every year I dread the first of these calls because I know it will lead to a couple of months of harrassment. I am definately going to tell them that I'm recording their call and will hand it over to Trading Standards. Hopefully that will get rid of them!!
Rob Smith September 28th, 2012 at 12:33
This scam has been going on for years and has evolved from the Police, Fire and Ambulance service to what is at the moment Crime prevention, with the offer of an advert in there annual Diary, "a diary that doesn't exist".
In a lot of businesses, managers and the like tend to move around quite a bit, the scammers know this and 5 times out of ten don't get the same person that they spoke to last year. their speel starts with "thank you for your support last year" and "Fred" who agreed last year also agreed to repeat the advert this year. So on and so on!
A lot of people will renew accepting that this is the norm and after all you will be helping the pillars of society.
Trouble is I have been the manager in my business for over 14 years and have heard it all before once a year every year, there is no point trying to gain information to pass on to the Police as they can't or won't trace the people involved.
As soon as I hear the speel "I'de just like to thank you for your support" I say "is this about the diary" at which point the phone goes dead every time.
The more people that let these maggots know, that we know what they are up to, it will make them move on to something else, scammers will never disappear just make it hard for them with a smile on your face.
Memorial Masons October 16th, 2012 at 23:05
My partner was contacted yesterday by a gentleman with a scouse accent phoning from an 0161 number.
When he answered the phone he didn't ask for anyone in person he just started his conversation with: 'Hello i'm from the crime preventation booklet we would like to thank you for your support over the last few months.'
He said: 'I am just returning your call from a couple of months ago where we discussed you having an advert placed in the magazine' My partner said I don't remember having this conversation.
He still did not know my partners name… He goes on to say: 'Yes you did, it was agreed that you would have an advert at £199'.
As my partner was busy he told him to forward the proof and details to our email address which he already had to hand. Today an email came from them with our proof and invoice. I opened the invoice and looked over the company name MJP Designs. My partner came home tonight with suspicious as some of the spelling was incorrect on the invoice.
I have since checked and there are a couple – Firstly our company name which has Memorials in it was spelt Momorials. -.-'
On the actual invoice we had IF you have any questions about this invoice or amendments for your artworkplease contact by Telephone or Email and one of are colleges will be happy to help
We are waiting them to ring back to ask for payment! This will be fun!
I got another call from someone claiming to be from the Manchester Courts this moring, chasing me on behalf of some compay I have never heard of for advertising in a crime prevention booklet that I never agreed to. I am so sick of this. I made the mistake of agreeing to one two years ago, since then I have been conned by the same ring 3 times into payiong and the last time it was a "Debt Collector" I'm not even sure if that was true now that the calls have started again.
Does anyone have any advice on how I can stop these Scammers from harrasing me for good? I had stopped answering my phone and letting the answering machine pick up, but as it's been quiet I had started answering again only to be greeted with this call today. I even had with-heald numbers barred from calling my number. I'm at my wits end, any advice will be great.
i have just received a call from a scouser claiming to work for the emergancy services asking if i want to advertise in the crime prevention booklet, when i said i wasn't interested he swore at me and put the phone down. his number was displayed it was 07435785607
Same, got a call today from the crime protection booklet about my advert that I had booked in March 2012, and that the paper work had been sent out today and they were only want to clarify a few details so that i could get my discount.When i told him i didnt have a business anymore he said thats fine, we will put it in the booklet as a donation from a well wisher!!!!!! When I asked his name, Simon, then his number, 0121 Do one!! I asked again . Yes you heard me correctly 0121 Do one. I have contacted my local trading standards in kilmarnock
Debbie November 19th, 2012 at 13:44
We've just received one of these calls AGAIN (same as last year), so they are back doing the rounds again!
Just had a call Dec 2012 from "quality care" rude girl threatening action if i didn't pay for a fictitious wall planner – using kids as a bait. Telephone Number was barred from re call. Total scum bags.
Sarah April 8th, 2013 at 12:37
Just had a call from Ian Conway from Kent Police asking us to "renew" our 1/4 page advert in a Police Officer's Diary,
We've never done this before so is in NO WAY a renewal.
Scam, scam scam
guiclan April 22nd, 2013 at 16:07
I just received a phone call from someone named Mark Walsh from Jubillee & Wilson, thanking me for the support and bla bla bla… I managed to get his mobile number 07788 182399, I did call him back to let him know that this was a scam according to the internet reports, he assured me that was not a scam and gave me a different company name and number. I jsut laugh to him and got very annoyed. May be you need to call him to questioned him.
Had a call from "Jamie Smith" calling from 01512279504 every day this week, claiming to be from police publications and trying to sell advertising space. Very persistent despite being told politely and then with increasing firmness that we are not interested. Today he denied calling before (so how did I know his name?). We will report it to the police (ironic, what?)
Emma Lawrence June 18th, 2013 at 14:17
Hi have just received a call from Crime Awarness on behalf of the Police. I am aware of the scam and I asked to speak to a person in authority was advised that everyone was on a level pegging. I asked for my telephone number to be removed from their database for which I was told if I don't get you this year i will call you in 2014. I asked for an address where I could make an official complaint which I was told that I couldn't have it. I eventually ended the call but am really keen to understand how my number can be blocked form these calls. This happens almost every 6 months.
I am so relieved that I am not the only person who has been subject to this scam. I stupidly have paid 2 invoices and it wasn’t until a female from Manchester who sounded very reminiscent of a previous calls – quite aggressive and forceful. I have really found this situation distressing I have become so paranoid about it – I genuinely do not know who is for real. I was contacted months ago regarding the adds then recently for the money. What I find interesting i receive no calls for weeks and then a flurry of calls. We are based in Leicestershire and all the companies say they are from Manchester. This has gone on for several months throughout 2013. Help
I took a call from a guy named Ian Conway yesterday saying he was publishing Essex Fire Brigades desk diary, that our comppany had been supporting it with a £180 quarter page advert for the last few years and was just ringing for a quick yay or nay as to whether this would be continuing this year.
Not knowing whether we had done or not, I told him I couldn't approve any activity and could I call him back? He was adamant that he would rather call me back (not wanting to give out his number.) I asked if he could email any information over to us to review and he said he didn't normally do that as a rule. We left it saying I would enquire with my colleagues as to whether we'd want to run the activity again and he would call me back in the morning.
I couldn't actually believe it when he rang back the next morning. Of course we never run this activity, and he should have known that my colleagues would confirm that to me. But here he was again, trying it on. So after trying to confusing him a bit, he gave up, went quiet and then hung up.
Don't fall for this loser. Ian Conway. Soft Liverpudlian accent. Says he fronts the publishing for Essex Fire Brigade (Even though that's not their correct name), and the police force. Desktop Diary 2013. Scam.
My company received this call today from 01925 423933 (Warrington) asking do I wish to support the police is crime prevention by paying £70 for a half page spread. After saying no she carried on with her sales pitch with me just sat there laughing saying no. I asked her for a copy of the magazine and she said it new and doesn’t come out until October so no you can’t see it. ha-ha I said so you want me to pay for something that 1, I’ve never seen, 2 I’ve never heard of and 3, doesn’t come out until October and 4, from someone who could be anyone over the phone, to which see said we are the police! Beware people, to me it was a good form of entertainment for 10 minutes on the phone but some people may be sucked into this scam.
Geoff Crouch August 19th, 2013 at 13:40
They are still at it. A man with a Liverpool accent just phoned me and thanked me for my support in the past (I have never supported them), and reminded me that I had promised his colleague a one eigthth page advert in the next magazine. I asked him for his telephone number and he hung up. Can BT not tell me the number of these people?
Matt King September 5th, 2013 at 14:26
It happened to me today. A man with a scouse accent called 'on behalf of Essex Police' thanking my company for supporting the campaign previously, confirming our company details and saying that we should agree to featuring again in the National Crime Prevention Magazine for £95. I quickly googled it and found this page, so realised it was a scam. I've reported it to Essex Police, but watch out as he was very convincing!
G. Holland October 14th, 2013 at 12:16
This scam is still happening. The man who rang stated he was called Keith and ringing on behalf of the "Crime Prevention Magazine" He wanted check out if I had taken an advert out with them last year. I have to say I was immediatly suspicious as previously a company called Mango Media threatened to take me tpo court as they stated they had published an advert on our behalf, which we were refusing to pay for. They threatened a small claims court. They were from the Manchester area. I stated I wouls see them in court and requested that it was held in my local court which you are allowed to request and then they dropped it.
Since then I have never given to Charity requests on the phone. We have plannned giving to charitys.
This keith gave the phone number 0845 802 7762 and when I started to ask about the police organisation I could call he put the phone down. Its a scam that they try As businesses s cannot complain to Trading Standards
I actually have paid several invoices from different 'publishers' and wondered what if anything I can do now about it. I work on my own and got sucked in to the 'we are calling you back about your advert' as I had placed an advert with ONE company but lots then called chasing money for adverts placed. Been thinking about this alot recently and wondered who to contact to see if I can get my money back?
Stuart Bennett November 15th, 2013 at 11:21
Just had one of these calls and also previously had calls before. They say they are calling from the police but when you question where they are calling from they say Crime Prevention Booklet, you ask for their number and give the excuse that he is on an extension. I challenge him that I think it is a scam and he said he will remove us from their system…..
Dianne November 19th, 2013 at 14:11
I have just received a call from a guy on a withheld number claiming to be calling from the local Crime Prevention publication, I am the manager of a Birmingham office. He says I authorised and paid for an advert on March 22nd this year and they were now in a position to upgrade our advert to a half page from a quarter page. They would need a password from me which could be a pet's name or my mother's maiden name and we would receive several copies of the booklet by courier over the next few days, the password would be needed to receive the parcel. When I started to question the guy (no discernible accent) and told him that I would never have been in a position to agree an advert, it would have to be run by my MD, he hung up.
I too have had many of these calls. I am now investigating them for We Are Change in the United Kingdom and would appreciate any assistance you can give me. The authorities are reluctant to pursue these scammers, so we'll put cameras in their faces instead! You can contact me via email at firstname.lastname@example.org. Our website is http://www.wearechangeuk.org. Good luck!
Nigel Clark January 28th, 2014 at 18:31
Hi, have just read your website 'blog' on scam charity/advertising calls, & was most interested.
Have recently reported a constant, vertually daily pursuance, series of mobile calls over the past few weeks. These from a company aledgedly called 'jubilee & wilson' publishers. Claiming similarly that an ad' had been placed for the end of last year & again more recently – regarding a police/charitable 'crime prevention booklet'. Monie due to be invoiced around £249, but reduced to some £125 due to any need to cancel already produce artwork costs etc. This has been formerly denied by me on subsequent occasions, albeit they stating that my order 'had been recorded' over the phone.
Joke being they, have even offered a discount of 10% on this if payment made within a time limit.
They have repetitively been told to check or repetatsuch a fiction to me, as I had indeed placed a 'one off' genuine charitable/police associated charitable pursuit – duly published & paid for back in July 2013 in the West Mercia Police area. So I had originally suspected a mistake rather than a now obvious scam.
Unfortunately I had inadvertantly suggested they email me, at a fortunately semi-redundant email address – to understand what this was truly about. Even sending me ficticious + artwork data or whatever to this address last week. I naturally did not 'open' this email, though suspect associated 'worm' involvement – which has since caused problems with my 'net' computer usage.
I would welcome any ideas, in regard to the latter computer problems?
I have now reported this to the West Mercia Police, who have declined to pursue this but have 'put on record' & transferred me to the 'Action Fraud department' (civilian organization, driven by police awareness) – with contact details. They in turn have recorded all particulars, given me an access password & 'crime number' & I must subsequently 'update' that record 'on line' or by phone – if I choose, in order of any further continued 'annoyance' & waste of time. No further help seems evident, unless the central fraudulent/electronic crime squad in London, decides its worthy?
It seems the UK, if not 'the world' is overwhelmed with such electronic scams & fraudulent driven stress. No means of stopping or blocking this, even after 'blunt telephone language' or police intervention suggest or applied.
Sadly again, this continues with unwanted pursuance by phone & unwanted but hopefully short term emails. I will continue not to 'open' such emails, now I understand that leaves 'one' vunerable to a probable constant 'rush' of further 'connected' advertising etc. ….. as if they were not enough of this already.
Again the supposed company concerned is: 'Jubilee & Wilson', DO NOT open any emails, but when they have a number to ring, they tragically seem to have an endless supply of ****** individuals to call?
Roy sedge February 4th, 2014 at 12:51
They are still at it. Had lots of calls from a idiot called bob have reported to police and will up date ASAP
James Fernando March 3rd, 2014 at 13:59
I have had the same scam from Jubilee & Wilson. But in addition I now also recieve letters demanding outstanding payments and warning that they will instruct a debt recovery company if not paid. So be aware, they dont give up once they sniff out a possible golden egg.
Just had a call from an old guy claiming to be the police thanking me for the support and the advert…
Strange thing is as soon as I mentioned tha fact I did not have the faintest idea of what he was talking about he put the phone down on me. Needless to say, number withehld.
If this was the same con, it was a very odd way to scam me for money…Confused to say the least…
Sue Hewes April 17th, 2014 at 14:30
Just to let business's know that in somerset the Scam is alive and well I have a business in Taunton. A nice lady sounding a bit like Loraine Kelly rang my home no, to say I had agreed to support the local crime prevention magazine. As we havent taken out any adverts, I luckly knew it was a scam. She rang back 3 time, what a nerve. Dont be suckered in by them.
Angela April 22nd, 2014 at 16:07
I have also had a call today from Jubilee & Wilson with the same rubbish as i've found other people have had on here, I have reported them to trading standards and would encourage others to do the same.
James May 1st, 2014 at 20:47
I unfortunately have also been subjected to these scum bags and feel we are all being greatly let down by our national fraud authority as looking back through these comments jubilee and Wilson have been carrying out the same scam for at least four years. I've reported my incident to action fraud and would incourage anyone else to do the same. They need more evidence to shut them down.
I feel quite traumatised after receiving a call from them. I swear I didn't agree to this advert in November and have asked for a recording of my call. They are saying I will need to pay £349 – they would have reduced it to £199 today but i said I'm not paying anything until I have evidence. They said they would get a recording of my call (we'll see!) but I will then have to pay the full amount not the £199. I then came off the phone and googled them and found this. What on earth??! I think I'll ring the police to see if anything can be done as I feel sick to the bone that people are doing this to professional businesses.
I have had two calls from someone climing to be from Jubilee & Wilson saying that last November I had booked an advert in a crime prevention booklet that was published quarterly and sent to schools etc. They could not explain why I would book 7 months before the advert at completely the wrong time of year for my business. If I wanted proof of the booking they would not be able to give their £50 discount so the price would be £199. I am awaiting their proof !
Lindsay July 2nd, 2014 at 22:15
I had a call today from a scouse lad, saying he was from the crime prevention association, saying he'd found my details through various associations we are accredited with. He said they are producing a A4 magazine that goes out across Hertfordshire to make people aware of rouge traders and that they were very impressed with my company and how good we were, blah blah blah and did we want to feature as the only electrical contractor in this booklet for a £600 half page spread, other options avaliable.they are clever though, didn't ask for money up front, say you only pay once the magazine has been produced. Sounded too good to be true, £699
Lindsay July 2nd, 2014 at 22:19
And after checks on here, I have confirmed it is a scam. Sounds too good to be true, it usually is.£600 for a half page spread and to be the only 'validated approved contractor' in a magazine sent all over a county would be lovely, however it ain't going to happen.
I actually paid for this advert twice !! Just had a call today, and I was getting a feeling from my last contact with them that it was a scam. Today I told them that I was not going to pay for any more adverts and they tried to set up the call so that at the end of it I had a guy called James calling me to confirm "the order" when I told them again I am not placing any orders, they hung up.!! Aggg…
Thalia July 14th, 2014 at 11:26
I recieved a call this morning from someone from the 'NCPA' (national crime prevention agency) offering me advertising in a booklet to stop homeowners ect from using cowboy builders, they were saying we would be the only construction company in the leaflet and that we would recieve substatial amount of work from the adverts. after reading this thread im confused at whether this is indeed a scam or legit. There is something wrong with the world when you dont know the difference! I am just glad i didnt cough up £250 pounds there and then!
Aberdonian July 23rd, 2014 at 09:16
In reference to Jubilee & Wilson and 'Colin Gray'
I was contacted by this company in late 2013 and I won't go over it again but it was the usual 'Previously booked, due us money' saga.
I told him politely that I wasn't involved and put the phone down, but in the coming days I received a threatening letter about monies owed and potential legal action. I knew it was rubbish so again ignored it.
Eventually 'Colin' phoned me saying I had to pay or else basically and I gave him what for. I had previously checked out their website which made it painfully obvious it was a scam.
I told 'Colin' this and how the photos on it were clearly fake ''Every website has fake photos'' was his response – The website created the illusion that the photos were of the office building etc.
I also told 'Colin' that the address registered was a residential house! and that he was the biggest scammer out there and that I didn't even believe his name was 'Colin' – add to that that the number was registered to several other business' such as 'A&J Builders' and 'Khaan's Food Spot' which he strenuously denied.
I then noticed a couple of months later that their website had mysteriously disappeared. So it saddens me to hear of the Jan – May 2014 issues with them and it is obvious these guys have not given up!
I've had and still do get heaps of these scammers – it amazes me how much they use the same script! PLUS lately I've had ones from 'Data Protection' – nothing more than just 'Data Protection' – saying that they are chasing these scammers – again another scam in itself to suss out targets!
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