Guest Post: one of our readers gets the police scamPosted on May 28th, 2010 9 comments
I’ve been trying to search for where to report this scam, obviously the police have better things to do, but my argument has always been that they are trying to obtain money by deception, even though the caller ID comes up as private, I’m sure they could trace it.
I’ve had the crime prevention/ police benevolent, etc scams, I’ve never got far enough to be sent an invoice, I like to think I’m pretty savvy in that respect.
Today the guy rang up and blatantly said he was a police office for Yorkshire police, I let him go on for a little bit, he said they were running a campaign on Drug prevention, So I butted in:
Me: Do you run any campaigns on Scam phone calls,
Him: No Do you think we should
Me: I wish somebody would because you’d be the first one arrested,
Him: Excuse me (getting agitated)
Me: Well you’re just a crook pretending to be a policeman to steal money from people
Him: Would you like me to come and speak to you in person
Me: You come here in your police uniform and car and arrest me if I’m wrong,
After this I took charge of the conversation,
Me: tell me which force did you say you work for?
Me: is that East, West North or South Yorkshire police?
Him: East Yorkshire
Me: Well that would be called Humberside police then right?
Him: No it’s East Yorkshire ( he’s obviously got my address in front of him) but I cover all of Yorkshire and Lancashire
Me: As I used to work for West Yorkshire police I can guarantee you that you would not be referring to Humberside police as East Yorkshire and you wouldn’t cover all of the North of England. ( the guy was a southerner who didn’t have very good Geography
Him: you used to work for the police and now you’re a farmer, good career move
Me: I’d rather do that any day than try to steal money from people over the phone, you’re nothing but a common criminal, ( I wouldn’t let him speak now despite his attempts to barrack me), you’re no better than a mugger who hits old ladies over the head, just because you work behind a desk you should be locked up and I someone steals money from you so you know how it feels)
Him: F*** OFF you C*** BEEEEEEEEEP
I have grown sick and tired of these calls, I’ve had so many, they carry on because firstly nobody complains and secondly those that they make money from don’t realise they’ve been scammed. I dread to think what their hit rate is.
My attitude with any type of scammer is either hang up immediately and not waste breath if I’m busy or, if I have a spare 5 minutes let them get into a conversation, pick holes on their story until they identify themselves as a scammer ( by making mistakes) and then lace into them, At the very least I’ve kept them talking long enough to save someone else losing their money.
The best tricks I use are ask them the name of their Chief Inspector, then tell them they’re wrong, or ask them which station they’re at and name a friend who works there, make it up, they’ll agree with you and look stupid. If they say they’re in your area ask them what area it is, then ask them which town it’s near, if they’ve just got a postcode they’ll mess it up. Whatever you do don’t feel the need to be polite to these people, think of this as an opportunity that someone who has been mugged never had, the chance to vent your frustration verbally at them, I’m sure they’ll soon get sick of being called a thief all day at work by people they ring up.
9 responses to “Guest Post: one of our readers gets the police scam”
hi i have just had the same experience yesterday of a person ringing saying my art work and invoice will be in the post for a £150 when i said i had paid it i was told i was trying to cancel and was pulling the wool over their eyes he then got abusive and i hung up . i spoke to the director this morning who assured me i would be getting my magazine next week also he gave me a pass word for my account. HOPE I GET THE BOGUS INVOICE TODAY AS I AM GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE FRAUD SQUAD . REGARDS BRIAN
Chris June 4th, 2010 at 12:28
A company, suggesting that they are calling on behalf of the ‘National Crime Prevention Council’, are cold calling people with the scenarios as descibed above…’we recently spoke to you, and you supported our last campaign etc’
They are operating out of Room 503, Cotton Exchange, Liverpool, L3 9LQ
Similar thing happening in the South West, a “charity” calling themselves “police aware” are claiming to be calling on behalf of Avon and Somerset police seeking sponsorship for a leaflet about antisocial behavior to be distributed in a 40mile radius of my post code. They claim that I was recommened by the local authority. My business hasn’t even started trading yet, let alone had any dealings with the council, which he couldn’t name! They are persistant so I may try to obtain an invoice next time.
Bill Bradford July 4th, 2010 at 08:49
My company was called in March 2010 with the standard approach “Agreed months ago, Artwork in post, pay £99.00″. This slipped thru the net and was paid. 2 days later calls to the office to reverse the payment were met with abusive reaction. subsequently, after persistent calling, Mr Steven Lee, agreed to refund the payment by sending a cheque. Despite many calls, letters (even by recorded delivery)no cheque has yet arrived. Now there is no response to the Telephone number 0161 654 0533 or emails
Since then I have recieved 2 further calls from different organisations calling themselves ‘Crime Prevention Booklet’. They got short shrift and were very abusive and threatening. Trading Standards Manchester were advised.
Just had a call from “James Carter” who offered me some advertising space in a new Police initiative magazine that will be distributed to 30,000 households and businesses in and around Hampshire.
He claimed to be from the Winchester Police Press Office and gave a phone number of 0845 600 7001 and also gave me a mobile number.
£345 for a half page
£198 for a quarter page
£125 for an eigth of a page
Very pushy – wanted commitment from me now and was on and on about getting an invoice out to me and “specially extended payment terms” given its near Christmas.
I told him I wasn’t going to commit to anything now and that I wanted to research this a bit more, and that he should call back later in the week. He said he’d call back in an hour(!) and “very kindly” agreed to put my space on hold and he’ll ring me back at noon…I can’t wait!
Trading Standards Hampshire have been advised, can’t w
Joseph December 15th, 2010 at 01:06
I have had endless calls last week from people trying to sell me electricity, so when I hung up on what I thought was another one and got a call back from claiming to be the police, I panicked and let him talk me into the advertising after trying to pull out for ages.
Got another phone call minutes later from a man claiming to be confirming this order when he said he could offer me the ad cheaper I finally clicked that it was a scam and told them him I wasn’t really sure I wanted it and didn’t have anyway to pay that day so he said he was going to call me back and created a password.
Called back the next day my wife answered and told him to get lost and we knew he was a criminal and to go away, as we had not recieved any invoice either by post or email as promised.
Didn’t hear anything from last friday till yesterday with the guy being very hostile and claiming he was going to send Bailiffs and if I agreed to this instrustion, I told him the only instruction I would give him was to go to hell as I knew my rights and could cancel the order especially as I hadn’t confirmed any form of payment. He tried to claim his verbal contract was founded in law.
He kept calling but I kept hanging up, my nerves were shot so I had to close my studio/shop at lunch time. Number 0151 652 1615
Today got a call from an unknown number claiming to be their Solicitor and they were taking out a CCJ against me I repeated the Distance selling regulations of 2000 against them they said I had waived my rights to that over the phone by setting up a password. He was told we were looking forward to his letter.
My nerves aren’t doing too good, I am only a studio potter I don’t earn enough to be closing my shop/studio every time they call.
Just had a call from someone purporting to be from the police, a long time ago we were duped into buying so called advertising space. I later searched the company, someone had gone to an awful lot of trouble to make it appear like a genuine charity. It does seem a shame that very little is done to clip these peoples wings. I thought that claiming to be a police officer was a serious offence.
have you head of support media or trade media group as i have hade tham on the phone and sending a urgent payment required for a community publication advertisement wich i did not no about
I also am having problems with 3 or 4 of these companies.
Anyone have any advice for me? I'm starting to get a bit concerned at how repetative and pushy their calls are. I don't think I can get any money back, but I don't want this to keep happening.
Stu – email@example.com
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